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DANNY DYER - UPDATE

07/05/10 UPDATE

As an immediate result of an on-going internal inquiry following an indefensible comment published in this week's issue, ZOO has decided to bring the Danny Dyer column to an end. We would like to make it clear that Danny was not misquoted, but that does not excuse the fact his comment appeared in print.

By way of sincere apology and to underline that ZOO condemns any violence against women, we have made a substantial donation to Women’s Aid. The space for Danny Dyer’s column in next week’s issue will be devoted to driving awareness to the issue of violence against women.

ZOO Apology

Comments


The words 'Andrew Sachs' and 'Band Wagon' spring to mind,
  • E25
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  • 10/05/10 10:19

I'm no killjoy and i see no harm in the average Lad's mag being something like, a few semi naked women here and there, football, gadgets, etc.. But i do feel Nuts and Zoo have always taken it a tad too far. Week after week across the covers it goes something like.. Britains Sexiest Single Babes, Britains Boobiest Babes, Best New Boobs, Big Boob Special, 100 Boobiest Blondes. These mags seem to portray women as being only sex objects and only valued if they look hot and have perfect big boobs. This level of shallowness and the unnatainable degree of female perfection seen in these images leaves a lot of women feeling regularly insulted and inferior. Reality is, women arn't pefect, we come in dif shapes and sizes, we have cellulite to some degree, arn't all stunning and very rarely do we have the perfectly rounded boobs that you see in these mags. Maybe if we had their wage packets and the end result of airbrushing things would be somewhat different. I just hope for most men, they don't take these rags too seriously, just a bit of fun.

in response to some earlier comments, I think there is a place for lad's mags on our shelves-they can be fun and it is nice to look at the girls as long as they aren't presented in a way that suggests they are only good for sex/whatever. Not all ZOO readers fit the lad's mag-buying stereotype of dribbling morons who think women are below them, so I feel its unfair to tar them all with the same brush. I buy ZOO and Nuts myself occassionally as I find them funny, and when I read women's magazines (surprise, surprise I am a girl) I usually feel completely awful about myself because they feature diet plans and present stick thin models as the norm. Not only is it nice to look at the girls in magazines such as ZOO, they make me feel better about how I look as the girls featured are not anorexically thin. Ok, it can be quite fairly argued that lad's mags contribute to lowering women to sex objects, but one has to remember that it is just a mag and ppl have to formulate their own opinions about women-if someone truly believed women were just good for having sex with, they would not be able to function in society as meeting a confident, capable woman would completely shatter their own prejudices and thus make them question their views.
OK, that was a bit long and confused, but I hope I made my point.
And I'm glad ZOO have fired Danny Dyer and have drawn attention to the fact that he was not misquoted. Even though ZOO have done something terribly, terribly wrong in printing Dyer's comments, I'm glad to see they haven't let him shirk his portion of blame.

@edbald90 I'm sorry, you seem to have misunderstood, although I'm not sure how. My email address can be found via my profile, if you wish to continue this exchange privately.
Otherwise, may I strongly suggest that you follow your own advice, and if you don't like the comments, don't read them.

@iamgrim do you agree with and understand the concept of free speech? I for one do and i respect your opinion and your right to voice it (although i think you are wrong) . My main gripe is that we all have different views on the subject with mine being amusement and yours obviously outrage but we both have the right in a supposedly free society to voice said opinions , unfortunately judging by the majority of posts calling for the head of either danny or the editor we are all not in agreement and a police state is more to your fancy.As for your completely wide of the mark hypothesis that i am an obviously abusive male id like to clear a few facts with you., i am in fact a happily engaged male of 13 years who happens to have a very devoted partner whom i love and can safely say loves me back equally without and abuse or forced will ,we also have two well grounded children together,the elder whom i might add is top of her class and impresses me daily (not bad for someone with an abusive father).I am no fool and like i have stated previously fully respect your right to voice concern but wonder whether you could reciprocate said gesture . My statement of "if you dont like it dont read it " stands true ,if you find something you dont like stay away from it ,i personally cannot abide any form of religion so therefore do not go reading the Bible or frequent any religious websites and certainly dont go commenting on the fact that its probably all made up fiction and is about as relevant as jack and the beanstalk ?(who also had a character in the sky). I do not wish to argue over who is right or wrong as we are sitting both sides of the fence but merely want to make you aware that there are more than one opinion on this and that just because you dont like it no one else can ,we are all different and we all have to coexist in the same place and should therefore try to respect each others ideology or live in a dictatorship where we are told what to think .Viva free will

you cowards.why sack dyer when if your editor was doing his job properly and reading before print went out you wouldnt all look stupid as each other.eveyone knows dannys a lairy bastard and thats why you had him doing a column in the first place for his "edgy" humour and barrow boy talk.this is a sad day for the mag as the mrs wants dyer back in the mag and if not i will have to start buying in secret any future issues.sack the editor not the columnist.BRING BACK DYER!if all else fails i hope he goes to front,at least they got sum balls!!

@elbald90 your suggestion that "If you dont like the content dont read it" deserves further scrutiny.
I think that what you really mean when you say "if you don't like it don't read it", is "if you don't like it, I don't want to hear about it". In truth, you don't care whether or not I "read it", but very vehement that if I don't like it I have no right to respond. Essentially what you are saying is, "if you don't like it, you have no right to say so". If you don't like it, you have to suffer in silence. If you don't like it - tough luck, sit still and shut up.
This is an attitude that seems to be typical of abusive men towards abused women, and it is depressing, although hardly surprising, to find it expressed by you, a ZOO reader, here on the pages of ZOO magazine.

shame on you zoo for apologising, i thought you had bigger balls than that .All you have done is empowered the fools who cant understand the context in which it was written the world would be a better place if we all stood up to these professional offendees and told them where to go . If you dont like the content dont read it as there are plenty of us who are grown up enough to understand what it is we are reading and yes i thought his comments were hilarious in case you wondered

This 'apology' is so not enough. Bauer runs a number of women's magazines like Take a Break and Bella. Word should be spread to boycott these titles. And the Editor of Zoo - a comic for morons - should be out. Simple.

Without doubt one of the worst things I ever seen in print. You should be totally ashamed of yourselves. This wasn't a production error. Danny Dyer wrote it, your editor cleared it and you published it. What's worse is that you can't even muster a decent apology - just a mumbled excuse.
Under what possible circumstances could it be right for ANYONE to advocate slashing a girl's face, mutilating her so that "no-one will want her"? How in any way, shape or form is this comedy?
You, the publisher's, are responsible for this going into print, and I sincerely hope you are prosecuted for incitement. With any luck this despicable rag will soon be in the toilet where it belongs, and you lot on the dole where you belong.
And the hideous irony of posting this comment above "do not post offensive or abusive comments", when you have publish the single most offensive and abusive comment I've ever heard!!
You've shown your true colours. I hope everyone else sees them to.

Right lets get a bit of perspective here. Dyer did or did not say something but he has now gone and his career with it. Zoo have been biblically slow to offer any meaningful explanation for how it appeared but i do suggest they stop taking on YTS editors. The donation to charity is a start but the road ahead is long and its obviously a worry to them that they may never recover from this. What is getting me annoyed though is this utter shite being aimed at good honest readers of this magazine. The fact I have the brains to remember to breathe means i also have the brains to understand that the comment was stupid and not go find my ex's and cut them up. There are many comments on here made by people (all of which made reference to the fact they had to sign in as a "bird") who only signed up to the website to offer their opinion. If you don't like Lads Mags or whatever you want to call them, then don't pay any attention to them. I say again that i don't agree with the comment and that Zoo are being very weak but please don't tar all Zoo readers with the same brush. I read Zoo, Nuts, FHM, Loaded and Front and so does my girlfriend and neither of us have ever gone on a rampage against women. Please everyone, take a deep breath and do what Dyer didn't and think before you write.

The reality is that Tom Etherington must take the fall here, and resign. He is ultimately responsible for what is printed. Danny Dyer was employed by the magazine precisely because of his abrasive and controversial attitude. Zoo cannot pretend to be all shocked if he has come out with something like this; they did not have to print it. That is if he did actually say it, given that he states he was misquoted. It is beyond comprehension that the comment was not read by several staff at Zoo and proof read before it got printed. There is no connection between the usual harmless stuff in the magazine and the comment printed in Danny's column - there is no pervasive violent underculture in 'lad mags' and it is taking things too far to suggest as much. Tom Etherington, please do the right thing, and resign. Do not seek to pass the blame onto Danny.

@MirainDragonblightEU
First things first please dont discrimate me because of my spelling. I have quite a sevear case of dyslexia which means my spelling will be pants expecially because I dont get spell check on my computer, insept from when Im using word press. I have found though with this disabillaty I have managed to put some hard effort when it comes to education, of wich I have a phd in psychology and write articals for a magazine (using the help of spell check on wordpress). Yes Im stupid when it comes to my spelling but I try my hardest in other areas. People are taring everyone with the same brush. go ahead and pick on the people to blame with this but leve the girls and readers out. These girls are picked to be in the mag because they are beautiful it wouldnt be a lads mag otherwise. Their brainy enough to know that they can make good cash from being beautifull. But listen not all the girls or reders of this magazine are stupid. Your pissed at the dannydyer comment, rightly so, just keep it at that and stop being abusive to the rest of us.

OK, Dyer has been fired, Zoo have apologised unreservedly, they have made according to yahoo a 'substantial' donation to Womens Aid and Dyers usual page next week will be used to drive awareness to the issue of violence against women. This has also come from yahoo. There is no word about the situation of the editing staff, as they are too culpable for this situation, but short of this, what else would you reasonably expect Zoo to do ?
This is a horrible situation and should never have made draft, let alone print. Its understandable that people will get upset, cancel their subscriptions and vote with their feet. And whilst thist situation should never have happenned, Zoo have worked very quickly to apologise, sack Dyer, make a donation and dedicate Dyers page next week to raise awareness of violence against women. Other than fire the editor (which no one should have a real problem with this after this debacle), what else do people want other than severed heads and blood ?
Mirian, as upset as you clearly are over this (and yes, I can understand why), your sweeping generalisation comments of Zoo readers falls short wehn you see some of the comments made here. It may come as a complete surprise to you, but most men (and certainly not all) are able to differentiate between what is the 'norm' and what isnt. You are always going to get a fair share of idiots, and true enough, some of them even come in female form.
Zoo know they have messed up, at least they have taken steps to go someway in rectifying this.

First note : I speak french so I'm sorry if my comment can be hardly understandable.
I don't want to say that people should stop give comments but now it's over the limits. It became the most commented news already and some comments are abusive and now people are attacking themselves. Some are now registering just for commenting this news and insult people without any reason... Zoo should really take a break for a month or more... because they though it could pass without problem... Hey, my ***! Everything is now watched and could become something against yourself. Not only Zoo disrespected women in general with that but they also disrespected their OWN models, their "friends" who work hard to give us something good to look at to forget all the tw*ts who work for the government. All the ones who were in Zoo during the first days from that last issue! ALL of them! Good work! Anyway, I won't burn my only Zoo issue I got (an issue featuring Gemma Atkinson).
Oh and one more thing... people, just shut it up and boycott Zoo Today. It could be their lesson! Thanks for reading! Merci!

@ xxxTorixxx
Don't say many of those bimbos are more intelligent than the rest of us because I can assure you myself and many others are not included in that. However, on a side note, I'm sure their parents are really proud... /sarcasm
Judging from your typo's you should spend more time in school, and less time defending this tripe.

Zoo, you FUCKING TWAT! Clearly it's ALL YOUR FAULT this happened. What kind of fucked up editor would read that and think: "oh, lol, that won't blowup at all!"? Fire the damned editor NOT Danny Dyer.
Your business is a fucking joke, I hope you choke.
  • noelw
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  • 07/05/10 16:35

you're going home, you're going home, you're going home, you're going home, you're going home, you're going home, you're going home, you're going home

Ok so Danny Dyer was a dick. I think no matter what Zoo would do to appoligize It wouldnt satisfy your need to rip the magazine a new one, judging by the comments. But why are people having a go at the girls and the rest of the magazine and readers! The girls that appear in the mag havent done any thing wrong and there is no need to bitch about them saying their stupid just because theyre hot or that the men and women who reed the mag are just as bad. Some of these girls and reeders are more intelligent that the rest of us. Yes you can have brains and be beautiful. Have a go at danny but stop being so bloody catty and jellous towards the rest!

Of course Zoo will never run a feature on preventing domestic violence against women - It requires that it's readers have a) a deeper emotional level than a paper bag, and b) it completely contraditcs Zoo's whole ethos - How can you run articles on domestic violence and showing respect for women when you have page after page after page of nude women, which does nothing but breed disrespect for women...?
I have had nothing but hatred for these tawdry wank rags produced by grown men who still giggle at the word "boobies" for many years, because I have experienced first hand the damage they can do to impressionable young men by causing them to believe that the women featured in these magazines are "the norm", and every woman in the world should look like that. Not that I should have to justify myself, but I myself am average looking, average body, with a degree from University, and am a good, kind and friendly person who likes to play football and vidoe games. Sounds great on paper! Yet these things count for nothing, so I have been told in the past (true story!) by guys who typically read this shite because I'm not 5'8" with a tiny waist and more breast than brain. Thankfully, I also don't give a shit what these troglodytes think - but scores of women do, and they already feel enough pressure to look good without the poisonous propaganda you spread.
Hopefully some good will arise from this disgraceful error in that enough people will speak out against this blot on society...

OK, so the comment below is the other situation this farce was bound to create. It gives ammunution to the anti-lad's mag brigade, by promoting the very attitude that these groups assume that any reader of Zoo must have. As I mentioned in my first post, I'm a very superficial male - I read Zoo and similar publications and I won't deny I like looking at attractive women. But that doesn't affect my attitudes to women in the 'real world'. Sadly, Dyer's "look at me, I'm proper hard innit" comments means that, as readers, we can all be tarred with the same brush.

Glad to see so many people are angry about this. But we also have to wonder why it so easily happened and how much other harmful stuff has slipped under the radar. If you want to do something about lads mags get involved in the Feminist Friday campaign to get rid of them. OBJECT dot org dot uk for more info. also I just wrote a blog post about this Dyer fiasco on soisaystoher dot wordpress dot com. Have a read and let me know what you think.

I don't understand how this could be passed off as an "error", surely the magazine is repeatedly proof read before it goes to print? Didn't anyone realise how incredibly disgusting this comment was?
I would like to ask the editor of ZOO, Tom Etherington:
WHAT WOULD YOUR MOTHER THINK?
If I was your mother, I would be ashamed to call you my son.
And as for Danny Dyer, say goodbye to what little career you have. Absolutely disgusting.
As a woman who has suffered at the hands of a man, I can assure you it is no laughing matter and many women die every week from abuse meted out by partners in their own homes.
I am encouraged to see that other ZOO readers feel as strongly as I do about such vile comments. I will never, ever buy this magazine again.
  • EmK
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  • 06/05/10 23:08

Very characteristic response of an abusive man to apologise after the event...they never mean it though always go on to do it again, often getting worse over time. Best action to take is to walk away from the abuser

Surely the end for Zoo Magazine - countless weeks of sub-standard topless girls and now this fiasco, I'm sure Nuts will be laughing their socks off right now.

danny dyer is sick he makes the joke in the zoo magazine u cnt sack him he wont b able to judge morning fry ups

Production error my arse. Apology my arse.
I used to buy this rag for a bit of fun. Never again. Congrats to you and yours for loosing rather a lot of custom as far as I can see.
As for Dyer, try redeeming yourselves a little by firing the twat.
As for "Please do not post offensive or abusive comments. They will not be tolerated." - ever a classic case of the pot calling the kettle black.

A glib web link to a site that contains a forum for survivors of the type of violence this bloke advocates? Do better
PS - an error? Have the balls to hold your hands up and say 'We were trying to be funny and we fucked up'

the blame falls on zoo/tom. It was their choice to print Danny's words to the public. I'm sure zoo have had there selection of unsavoury characters pass through the office over the years and not published some comments due to how the content would have been received. My own view is that zoo thought its readers (not the majority of the people on here might I add) would take that comment as Danny Dyers east end wide boy funny man tone. he needs to watch his tongue as understand that there are some people out there that take things literally and also there are some that have had such attacks. zoo to blame, for those who have gone out of there way to sign up on this site to mock zoo's content and readers...please find something better to do with your time...spot trains etc..

This is disgusting and this magazine should be closed down. Who does this Danny Dyer think he is? He should be fired, today. An apology is not good enough. I find it amazing that advertisers, who pay for the magazine, do not condone the behaviour of the employees of this magazine who they pay to promote their products. What an appalling justification of this Danny Dyers thoughts about women and how to treat them on radio 2. Whoever that was should go as well as he portrayed sentiment as being towards Danny Dwyer. We expect the magazine to be of poor quality but this has pushed the levels of decency to the lowest of the low. This magazine should be removed from the shelves.
  • JTFN
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  • 06/05/10 12:06

Dyer should do something right and quit, if not he should be FIRED. Maybe the police should get involved and charge him with inciting violence. This is disgraceful and if he does not go I hope the circulation goes through the floor.

Well I think the name LEEDSUNITED1 is enough to understand how this writer can defend violence against women

It was just horrible. Why would anybody even print that. Clearly the magazine is not proof read by the Editor before going on sale. We all know that there is little journalism in these mags, but this was just pathetic. There is probably a big clearout due at Zoo - it is losing readers and a fresh start is needed. I love glamour photography and I believe that women are the most beautiful enities. Simply violence is wrong.

If Dyer is going to say such things, I notice he hasn't yet said he "didn't" say it" he just says" he doesnt condone it." I have just listened to a lady on the radio who has had her daughters life ruined by a thug who took the wonderful advice given out by Dyer in his column. I would never wish it on any of his family but can't he begin to imagine what destruction such events have on familys and communities. I'm sorry but Dyer is a dinosaur trying to talk, act (that's a laugh) and behave like the Krays. For F##k sake give us a break he's a mincing little boy who would run a mile from a fight (beat my body leave my face I'm an actor) Get rid of this crap from our society and promote something positive.

@leedunted1 If you don't like the comments, don't read them. Simple?

Lets not get to carried away people do make mistakes looks like they became to complacent. As for Dyer come on do you really think he writes it and is that person in real life its just an act (and it has bloody worked). As for all you who have just signed up to berate and insult the magazine well done you have just increased the amount of online members. Most of you that have posted comments really need to get yourselves a life and stop getting involved in things that dont really concern you i mean do you actually but the magazine the majority of you will answer NO and have had to physically go search oout the actual article just like all those who sit at home watching a film that they know involves sex/bad language and violence then complain when it happens because you have nothing better to do. IN OTHER WORDS IF YOU DONT LIKE IT DONT WATCH, READ OR LISTEN SIMPLE.

There's something sick and evil about this country today. And you people are part of it.

Lets not get to carried away people do make mistakes looks like they became to complacent. As for Dyer come on do you really think he writes it and is that person in real life its just an act (and it has bloody worked). As for all you who have just signed up to berate and insult the magazine well done you have just increased the amount of online members. Most of you that have posted comments really need to get yourselves a life and stop getting involved in things that dont really concern you i mean do you actually but the magazine the majority of you will answer NO and have had to physically go search oout the actual article just like all those who sit at home watching a film that they know involves sex/bad language and violence then complain when it happens because you have nothing better to do. IN OTHER WORDS IF YOU DONT LIKE IT DONT WATCH, READ OR LISTEN SIMPLE.
  • klt
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  • 06/05/10 10:46

when is Dyer being sacked. And when will this be published so that everyone is confident idiots like him do not have a voice?

So, Tom Etherington, is that what you saw for yourself when you decided you wanted to become a journalist? Publishing venon-filled, woman-hating bile in a tawdry little wank mag? You must be so proud.
What we should be told is whether Dyer wrote this column himself, or you or one of your staff 'ghosted ' it. The next thing we should be told is who is going to lose their job for this, because it is an outrageous, ugly, offensive and unforgivable breach of every code - human, journlaitsic, you name it - known. I am going to be complaining to the boss of Bauer and the PCC and suggest everyone else do the same.

What a disgrace. Editor has to go - bare minimum, how it was allowed to get through into print is beyond me.
Danny Dyer also has to be removed from magazine, front page apology in next issue; everyone involved in the magazine should hang their heads in shame over this.
I hope the Bauer senior management are proud...

We all like a lads' laugh but this is not funny. The problem is the more fuss thats made about it the better it will be for the awareness of this magazine and that's not the right result. Its a step too far for me and I will not be buying your magazine anymore. A more prominent apology is needed.
  • RMcH
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  • 06/05/10 08:56

Smash everything in sight? Like smashing other blokes heads in after a night on the lash? Great suggestion. Is encouraging the killing of someone's father/brother/son and then slicing up your ex your idea of a good night out? What a laugh. What a geezer. Do you or that pathetic creep Dyer know what it's like to have your family destroyed by violence? Oh it's ironic! It's just a joke. How hilarious. No doubt we should all lighten up. Sorry, not funny. Get rid of that pathetic idiot Dyer for starters but best outcome would be for your sales to plummet and for your nasty little rag to go bust.
  • mFro
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  • 06/05/10 08:53

This really is shocking. Using the excuse of a production error is only trying to remove any blame from Danny or the Editor.
I can't see Zoo surviving in an already difficult industry with this negative PR. Even if the Editor is sacked, advertisers are going to drop Zoo fast and move to other mags, and too right, I mean which companies want to be associated with a magazine that encourages abuse? Maybe Stella Artois?
Good luck getting a new job Tom.
  • mFro
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  • 06/05/10 08:48

This really is shocking. Using the excuse of a production error is only trying to remove any blame from Danny or the Editor.
I can't see Zoo surviving in an already difficult industry with this negative PR. Even if the Editor is sacked, advertisers are going to drop Zoo fast and move to other mags, and too right, I mean which companies want to be associated with a magazine that encourages abuse? Maybe Stella Artois?
Good luck getting a new job Tom.

A brief apology, buried in the mid pages of the next edition is simply not good enough. Zoo should run a feature on violence against women and try to educate its staff as well as audience on the matter – and do some good after they have done such harm. The fact is one of their contributors and all editorial staff who saw this copy pre-production thought it was OK to make such a comment in the first place, and it’s really not.

I've just read the BBC report on this case and thought I would register to see what sort of morons would run such a production. This lad Dyer for instance, sounds like a right laugh eh? Not only does he seem not to write this crap but he appears to be far too important to check it, perhaps the poor little lamb can't read? As for the magazine suggesting such comments were a production error, how does that work exactly? Presumably you can't read either, a whole load of bullshit from a whole bunch of very unpleasant bullshitters. It wouldn't surprise me one bit if you lot aren't partly responsible for the nonsense most towns see on their streets every weekend. Young studs all puffed up, pretending to be some sort of man (much like Mr Dyer it would seem), but in reality wholly incapable of behaving like one. I reckon the production team had a right laugh when they published that one. Perhaps thats what the magazine means by a production mistake, the staff themselves no doubt a bunch of gelled up morons who push and shove their way through life, well boys and girls life has a habit of pushing back a whole lot harder, as I expect you're about to find out. I would imagine the best place for you lot and Mr Dyer would be cleaning out sewers with a toothbrush, I'd pay to see that.

How could this be a production error??
Seriously!! You can kiss my subscription good bye.
Danny Dyer should be dropped or the editors should be sack!

I've not been aware of that comment because I don't get the issue but if there's one thing I know, I really doubt Zoo OR Nuts would be for violence against violence. It takes some lunatic men to be up for that. "Soft violence" is also expressed in some comments there and it's unacceptable. But also, it's a big error for Zoo and they should check up next time once they'll release the next issue. In the meantime, I'll say it : I love women, I respect them, they deserve it (even sexy or not) but women who're victim of any violence-type... it becomes personal! Love to women!

iamgrim - seconded!

Do you really think your actions are sufficient?
Why has DYER not been sacked? He's a has-been-never-was-anyone-anyway who adds nothing to the magazine. You actions with regard to a donation and your platitude of an apology are insufficient and insincere.
How would you feel if someone actually took his advice? Do you actually have a legal department ? Try getting some advice from them rather than DYER.

It could of well been put in on purpose changing the words around, but you can imagine Danny Dyer putting something like that. The guy is a twat and for zoo to give him a job like that is a disgrace. If I take the hint both zoo and Danny Dyer are going to make a donation to Women's aid hopefully they won't take anything from that sad low life of Danny Dyer.
Big mistake on Zoo's behalf and you can guarentee readers and buyers will drop after this, and it serves Zoo producers right.

The token gesture of a donation to Women's Aid following your advocation of violence against women is a bit like bringing me a bunch of flowers and telling me you love me after breaking my nose. Well done Zoo.
When you jump out of the Ford Cortina you are driving around in could you possibly make a further donation following your earlier 'error' in allowing Modern Man Mr Dyer to suggest setting fire to a woman's 'munt' should it not be to the standard of a man?

I'll be cancelling my subscription. Your response to those disgusting comments was not good enough.

The token gesture of a donation to Women's Aid following your advocation of violence against women is a bit like bringing me a bunch of flowers and telling me you love me after breaking my nose. Well done Zoo.
When you jump out of the Ford Cortina you are driving around in could you possibly make a further donation following your earlier 'error' in allowing Modern Man Mr Dyer to suggest setting fire to a woman's 'munt' should it not be to the standard of a man?

I'm pleased that ZOO magazine condemns violence against women, and I'm sure that you do not mean for this apology to be merely a vacuous and empty gesture. With this in mind, I look forward to reading future articles, on your website and in ZOO magazine, in which violence against women is expressly condemned, and in which demeaning attitudes towards women are robustly challenged.
They will not be tolerated.
Yours.
  • Ayeup
  • says:
  • 05/05/10 21:47

It has been my misfortune to meet some of the sad, pathetic, withered dicked individuals who produce this magazine. They have to a man the emotional maturity of a mayfly and the intellectual spark of a dead 10 watt bulb. They somehow bumble along producing this awful shit week after week, most of it stolen off the web and all of it *snicker snicker snicker I'm still twelve really* until something goes tits up like this.
A more pathetic bunch of sad old career dead twats it's impossible to imagine and their bitterness leaks from every pore of this sad organ.
The casual mysogyny spills into their private lives and you have to shower several times if it has been your misfortune to be in their presence.
This was no production error, these sad bastards think like this and think they're GRATE!!!!!
I hope they get a *proverbial* kicking.

Just lose that mockney wannabe d-lister. He adds nothing to the magazine. You might feel like apologising for some of his other ramblings, too - on drugs etc

Just lose that mockney wannabe d-lister. He adds nothing to the magazine. You might feel like apologising for some of his other ramblings, too - on drugs etc

Danny Dyer's comment was absolutely disgraceful, and if possible, your 'apology' has made it even worse. Your website shows complete and utter contempt for women (to sign in I had to check a box saying 'bird'). It's pathetic to think it took a member of the public to notice how offensive Mr Dyers comment was - why didn't a sub, an editor or just anyone with a modicum of decency spot it and do something before it was published?
Your half arsed apology shows how little you really care about this issue - anyone with any worth at all would have sacked Danny Dyer and fired the person in charge of his column. You make me feel physically sick. You should be utterly ashamed.

Sorry, eh?
Bottom line – the buck stops with the editor and sub-editor.
If you’re that sorry there’s two things you should be doing.
1) Get rid of your diamond ‘geeezzzeeerr’/voice of the blokes’/well fucking ‘ard, advocator of female mutilation, dyer.
And 2) Fall on your swords.
This won’t happen for two other reasons.
1) None of them really give a shit.
And 2) Because they’re loving the publicity. You can just see them all, butt-naked, sat in the office flicking through the papers and various web sites, cock in hand, pulling one off.
Well done boys - hope it was good for you!
GriftyWelder
PS – Joanne (and this is just a thought), I’d stick with your ‘man’ if I were you. You don’t want to end up looking like Freddy Krueger’s ugly sister!
GW

Sorry, eh?
Bottom line – the buck stops with the editor and sub-editor.
If you’re that sorry there’s two things you should be doing.
1) Get rid of your diamond ‘geeezzzeeerr’/voice of the blokes’/well fucking ‘ard, advocator of female mutilation, dyer.
And 2) Fall on your swords.
This won’t happen for two other reasons.
1) None of them really give a shit.
And 2) Because they’re loving the publicity. You can just see them all, butt-naked, sat in the office flicking through the papers and various web sites, cock in hand, pulling one off.
Well done boys - hope it was good for you!
GriftyWelder
PS – Joanne (and this is just a thought), I’d stick with your ‘man’ if I were you. You don’t want to end up looking like Freddy Krueger’s ugly sister!
GW

Sorry, eh?
Bottom line – the buck stops with the editor and sub-editor.
If you’re that sorry there’s two things you should be doing.
1) Get rid of your diamond ‘geeezzzeeerr’/voice of the blokes’/well fucking ‘ard, advocator of female mutilation, dyer.
And 2) Fall on your swords.
This won’t happen for two other reasons.
1) None of them really give a shit.
And 2) Because they’re loving the publicity. You can just see them all, butt-naked, sat in the office flicking through the papers and various web sites, cock in hand, pulling one off.
Well done boys - hope it was good for you!
GriftyWelder
PS – Joanne (and this is just a thought), I’d stick with your ‘man’ if I were you. You don’t want to end up looking like Freddy Krueger’s ugly sister!
GW

I have no idea why my comments are being posted twice. It's nothing I'm doing at this end, I assure you. Apologies to those of you who have to wade through the repetitions. That said, under the circumstances I doubt that it's possible to heap too much excoriation on the idiots who allowed the highly offensive and abusive piece to be published in the first place...
How about a proper reply, Zoo? Has anyone there got the balls to tell us what you're really going to do about Dyer, Etherington, and everyone else involved in publishing those shameful comments?

Sorry, eh?
Bottom line – the buck stops with the editor and sub-editor.
If you’re that sorry there’s two things you should be doing.
1) Get rid of your diamond ‘geeezzzeeerr’/voice of the blokes’/well fucking ‘ard, advocator of female mutilation, dyer.
And 2) Fall on your swords.
This won’t happen for two other reasons.
1) None of them really give a shit.
And 2) Because they’re loving the publicity. You can just see them all, butt-naked, sat in the office flicking through the papers and various web sites, cock in hand, pulling one off.
Well done boys - hope it was good for you!
GriftyWelder
PS – Joanne (and this is just a thought), I’d stick with your ‘man’ if I were you. You don’t want to end up looking like Freddy Krueger’s ugly sister!
GW

Danny Dyer's comment was absolutely disgraceful, and if possible, your 'apology' has made it even worse. Your website shows complete and utter contempt for women (to sign in I had to check a box saying 'bird'). It's pathetic to think it took a member of the public to notice how offensive Mr Dyers comment was - why didn't a sub, an editor or just anyone with a modicum of decency spot it and do something before it was published?
Your half arsed apology shows how little you really care about this issue - anyone with any worth at all would have sacked Danny Dyer and fired the person in charge of his column. You make me feel physically sick. You should be utterly ashamed.

A disgusting vile mindless but basically genuinely felt suggestion I fear from a writer who should be sacked and preferably taken to court for inciting others to violence. The "production error" ploy is obviously intended to reduce the offensiveness but in fact achieves the opposite effect since it is another extreme example of the magazine's lack of judgement. All it does is reveal the magazine's staff's total lack of morality and their arrogant belief that everyone else is more stupid than they are. The editor should be sacked too.

Well said bigrog. This ridiculous apology is cockless journalism at its finest

Danny Dyer's comment was absolutely disgraceful, and if possible, your 'apology' has made it even worse. Your website shows complete and utter contempt for women (to sign in I had to check a box saying 'bird'). It's pathetic to think it took a member of the public to notice how offensive Mr Dyers comment was - why didn't a sub, an editor or just anyone with a modicum of decency spot it and do something before it was published?
Your half arsed apology shows how little you really care about this issue - anyone with any worth at all would have sacked Danny Dyer and fired the person in charge of his column. You make me feel physically sick. You should be utterly ashamed.

Well said bigrog. This ridiculous apology is cockless journalism at its finest

What was that about not publishing offensive or abusive comments? It doesn't apply to Zoo then? Never mind the nonsense about apologising for a production error. How about an apology for stupidity, hypocrisy and incitement to violence (which, incidentally, last time I looked was an indictable offence). You really want to make amends? Danny Dyer is a non-entity...bury the to55er in a toxic waste dump where he belongs. Then let's see the names of every individual who thought it'd be a good idea to publish his staggeringly 4xwitted comments, and their justifications for doing so. Then send 'em to a battered women's refuge to explain themselves. I could go on, but you get the picture. You're an absolute disgrace.

So this arrogant little piece of crap thinks he is funny. Tell you what would be funny, for Mr Dyer to spend 10 mins locked in a room with the father and brothers of a young girl who has been attacked, then he can explain to them how funny he is. Perhaps the editor could be there as well and explain the "production error", don't think either of them has got the guts to do that.

What was that about not publishing offensive or abusive comments? It doesn't apply to Zoo then? Never mind the nonsense about apologising for a production error. How about an apology for stupidity, hypocrisy and incitement to violence (which, incidentally, last time I looked was an indictable offence). You really want to make amends? Danny Dyer is a non-entity...bury the to55er in a toxic waste dump where he belongs. Then let's see the names of every individual who thought it'd be a good idea to publish his staggeringly 4xwitted comments, and their justifications for doing so. Then send 'em to a battered women's refuge to explain themselves. I could go on, but you get the picture. You're an absolute disgrace.

An error? An ERROR? That has to be the weakest and most laughably unconvincing defence I've ever heard. Presumably a less vacuous, stupid, violent and offensive reply was originally drafted, but then somebody "accidentally" wrote this one and it was "accidentally" published.
Danny Dyer claims to have been "misquoted". What was he saying that was misheard as "cut her face"?
And was he also misquoted when he advised that unattractive women should be set on fire?
http://www.shoutingatco.ws/blog/2010/04/08/the-wonder-of-danny-dyer/
If I thought Danny Dyer were capable of anything as challenging as literacy, I would counsel him to consider actually writing, or at the very least reading, the three lines attributed to him every week before publication.
As scarletspider pointed out, I adore the fact that Zoo consider themselves positioned to warn against "offensive or abusive comments" which apparently "will not be tolerated". Hilarious.
  • ondee
  • says:
  • 05/05/10 17:14

This non-apology is insultingly small. Please take this chance to do something meaningful and more appropriate than a short rebuttal expressing apologies etc. I completely understand that Zoo is not a forum for academic discussion gender roles and I'm not against public displays of sexuality. Whilst the images of women in your magazine could be argued to contribute to misogyny and prejudice, I think that porny images can coexist with better attitudes towards women.
Please, please take this opportunity to be responsible and run a piece with a strong rebuttal of violence against women. Please. It's not only women that suffer from fantasy gender roles, its men too. I strongly doubt that the majority of your readership condone physical violence towards women or are unaware that women are not interchangeable dolls etc. but yet, statistics seem to suggest that many men do think it's alright to violently coerce women into doing what they want them to do. Please run a piece talking about this. Silence about these issues contribute to them happening and trap well-meaning men in a gender role where it's not alright to speak out and is in fact more manly to tolerate violent and abusive situations. By espousing Danny Dyer, a parody of masculinity, you contribute to this trap for men. Contribute instead to providing some positive role modelling. Please. Do something meaningful about this about this....
  • BCB
  • says:
  • 05/05/10 17:03

Every member of your staff should read this http://opheliabottom.posterous.com/cutting-women-for-fun
I would never - EVER - be in your target demographic especially being that I'd have to classify myself as a "bird" in order to state my gender on this site, but I am absolutely appalled that this was published and that it has been excused as a "regrettable publishing error". That violence against women is still jokeworthy and amusant in this day and age is an embarrassment and I truly hope that whoever is responsible for this is sent immediately to work for a women's domestic violence charity on Zoo's dime.

i dont expect much from zoo in terms of content but i mean jesus at what point did you think this was a good idea
dont blame it off as an error in production just stand up and say we were fucking dicks
get rid of the walking cliche that is danny dyer

"Please do not post offensive or abusive comments. They will not be tolerated." Good advice that. A production error? Really? What, Dyer 'acidentally' wrote it and you 'accidentally' printed it? I've been reading Zoo pretty much since day one, and believe me, I am the king of shallow and superficial. And even I feel a right Daily Mail coming on over this. I never knew why you gave that lidl's-Ross Kemp a job anway, but it's time to let him go. Seriously.
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